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The LVR Podcast™ Episode #37 – AI versus EI/EQ

December 11, 2023
The LVR Podcast™ Episode #37 – AI versus EI/EQ

This podcast is our chance to give back to the mortgage broking industry and talk about real issues that are affecting most brokers and loan writers right now. Learning, Validation and Respect = the very foundations of all relationships.

The LVR Podcast™ Episode #37 – AI versus EI/EQ

WE DISCUSS IN THIS EPISODE:

The rise of Artificial Intelligence (AI) has ushered in a new era in broking (and every other industry, let’s be honest), transforming how we navigate and redefine our industry norms. While it’s fascinating to witness the exponential growth AI can bring, we want to take a look at Emotional Intelligence (EI/EQ), and what every broker should be mindful of.

Amidst this technological renaissance, if you will, Marissa and Ruan discuss the unwavering importance of EI/EQ. At Success & Broker, we’ve always held the belief that it’s the human element that truly sets us apart. We understand that while AI streamlines processes, it’s the emotional connections and human insights that forge lasting relationships and elevate client experiences.

Join us on this insightful journey as we dissect the interplay between AI and EI/EQ in the realm of mortgage brokers and finance professionals. Through real-life examples and practical insights, Marissa and Ruan highlight how AI’s automation complements our industry, empowering brokers to maximise efficiency while preserving the essence of personal connections.

Key points:

  • Exploration of AI’s role in mortgage broking, focusing on efficiency-boosting capabilities and time-saving potential
  • Emphasising the pivotal role of EI in the broker-client relationships
  • Insights on the delicate balance between leveraging AI for streamlining processes and ensuring personal, emotionally intelligent interactions with clients
  • Discussing the importance of understanding client needs and wants
  • Strategies for leveraging AI to free up time
  • Exploring how the integration of AI prompts an evolution in broking practices, reshaping workflows
Quotes:

“We’re trying to automate as much as we can behind the scenes so that our brokers and our even our admin team can spend as much customer facing time as possible.” – Marissa

“When you are looking to implement AI or automation into your business process or your customer journey, you need to weigh up how does the time that it’s going to save my team going to impact the customer journey?” – Marissa

“Because the reality of it is I’d rather have anyone at a barbecue talk about the way I make them feel versus what I’ve done for them. I guarantee you today that’s what I will remember you for.” – Ruan

“I think that when people are doing big transactions, when they’re buying properties or refinancing their loans, I believe that humans do need humans.” – Marissa

“The more people you see, the better broker you become.” – Ruan

“I think the great thing about AI and the technology advancements that we have experienced and are going to experience is that this is going to give us the tools to maybe take it from 20% client facing time to 80 to 90% client facing time over time.” – Marissa

More from Marissa
and her company,
Rise High Financial Solutions
www.risehigh.com.au
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Ian Winn
24 September 2026
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Ruan has been my mortgage broking coach for 6 months. Having owned a very successful mortgage broking business and now a coach of many businesses he has unparalleled experience to share with his clients. He does this in a very clear and consultative manner. He is always looking for improvements and innovation for clients to implement in their businesses. He has a big picture approach which really helps you get out of the weeds when analysing your business. He has helped me grow my business and provide clarity to achieve my goals. Thanks for your support.
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Anisa Buckley
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I have learnt so much from Ruan and the team at Success & Broker. Ruan's practical advice to me as a new broker has been incredibly helpful and I have incorporated many of his strategies and approaches into my own business.
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Bree Rivers
14 September 2026
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Working with Ruan has been great. He genuinely cares about your success and provides honest practical advice from his own experience that can be applied to get real results. I highly recommend Ruan to any broker wanting to grow.
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Your favourite Bald & Bespectacled broker
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Great weekly 50min session with Ruan himself, done online over Zoom with other brokers. Intimate session of around a dozen people, including Ruan and the host. If you're a new broker and have under three or four years of experience, and wish to get an insight into Ruan's mind + pick up tips and tricks, it's a very good six month-long training program. Even if you're a more seasoned broker like myself (nine years in December 2026), it's worth an education session - I have a few pages of notes and thoughts. Give it a go, brokers.
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Christopher Dodson
6 August 2026
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Thanks Ruan for your insight and warm approach
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Achani Kodippili
4 August 2026
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That was an amazing journey with Success & Broker. Excellent guidance is simply practical. Thank you team for the opportunity.
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Sara Shome
1 August 2026
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I’ve really enjoyed being part of Ruan’s Grow Broker Program. As a broker with an over 5 years of experience, it is easy to reach a point where you feel like you’re doing well but not really moving forward. This program challenged me to rethink almost everything I thought I knew about broking, relationships, branding and what it really takes to build a sustainable career. Ruan has an incredible ability to make you look at your business and thinking from a completely different perspective while providing genuine support and practical strategies that you can implement immediately and easily. It is not about quick wins or generic coaching. It is about building the right foundations and becoming a better broker and business owner. The confidence and clarity I gained through the program played a crucial role in my decision to move into a BDM role. It helped me recognise where my strengths truly lie and gave me the self confidence to take that next step. I would highly recommend Success and Broker to anyone who feels they have reached a plateau or wants to take their career to the next level. It has been one of the best self investments I have made.
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Jonathon Rhydderch
22 July 2026
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The Success & Broker course has been fantastic. As a new broker, you learn a lot about the technical side early on: compliance, lending policy, structuring deals. But what nobody really teaches you is how to build a sustainable business around all that. Ruan's program fills exactly that gap, giving you so many practical, actionable ways to grow: daily habits and consistency, marketing that actually works for a brokerage, operations and systems that scale, and how to genuinely deliver a great client experience rather than just process loans. What I liked most is that it's not generic coaching. It's built specifically around where you are as a broker, whether that's establishing strong foundations early on or working toward running a proper business with leverage and a team behind you. The 'Broker Journal' kept me on track throughout the course and is a great reference point when i need to work on my business. It is like a blueprint for success. All of it is delivered in a refreshingly warm, positive, and genuinely invested way. You can tell they actually care about your outcomes, not just ticking a coaching box. Big thanks to Ruan, and to Ryan too. Highly recommend to any broker serious about building a real business, not just writing loans.
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Alex Ritchie
8 July 2026
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Ruan and the Success & Broker team have been really helpful in getting us to think about how we operate, how we build out or team, and where we want to go. Ruan is super knowledgeable, having spent many years as a broker running multiple firms. He asks the right questions and challenges your thinking.
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Lachlan McKean
6 July 2026
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I've worked with Ruan at Success & Broker for the last 12 months~ and it's been great. Always makes time to discuss what's going on and the advice is invaluable. If you're a broker thinking of using Ruan's services, it's definitely worth jumping on board.
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